r/Conservative • u/AbductedAlien01 • 1d ago
Congress has voted to deny the amendment to the release of the Epstein files Flaired Users Only
https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1945192389770948647?s=34680
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u/Germy_1114 Libertarian Conservative 23h ago
It’s a big club and you ain’t in it…
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u/Damichia480 23h ago
Yeah left vs right has been distracted fighting each other but we're all sheep to the elite
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u/acreekofsoap No step on snek 23h ago
I don’t wanna be. I’m already gonna have enough to answer for when I die.
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u/TheThunderOfYourLife Conservative 23h ago
Reddit, I think we can all agree--and that includes the other political subs as well--that we need to scream incessantly and annoyingly until Congress releases them, if only to shut us up.
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u/Nikoviking Tucker Conservative 16h ago
They’ll never do it because their names are on the list
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u/-Istvan-5- MAGA Conservative 23h ago
Honestly though, I never expected anything different..
However, what I will say is this episode is highlighting who I can trust in the media.
People like Charlie Kirk who I used to trust are clearly just repeating whatever the administration are telling them, rather than holding people's feet to the fire.
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u/Benjanon_Franklin Don't Tread On Me 21h ago
Anybody supporting this administrations take on Epstein is a part of the problem and not a credible source.
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u/defearl MAGA and MAHA! 17h ago
I couldn't believe my ears when he said "I trust my friends in the administration"
He spent all these years advocating for "Keep the government small, because you cannot trust them", only to now do a sudden 180 and say the exact same rhetoric as the left: "Guys, the government is your friend, they only do what's in your best interest. Don't question them. Just agree with whatever they tell you"
Maybe the democrats are right. We ARE in the oligarchy.
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u/CRO_Life Fiscal Conservative 22h ago
This is actually a really good point I hadn’t considered.
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u/Nyxaus_Motts Conservative 21h ago
Definitely agree here. This has kind of drawn a line between those willing to stand up for what’s right vs those willing to fall in line and regurgitate the very little they are being told. The Conservative Party has had a lot of opportunity to outgrow non-useful people thanks to the MAGA movement, this is another one of those opportunities
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u/offensivetoaster 1A & 2A Preservationist 21h ago
Agreed. I’ve grown to appreciate Shapiro less and Megyn Kelly more for this exact reason
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u/AccidentProneSam 2nd Amendment Absolutist 19h ago
Matt Walsh more too. He's been very vocal about it.
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u/OTribal_chief UK Conservative 18h ago
i'm surprised tucker isnt following the script and demanding the release of these files
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u/Disastrous-Power-699 Moderate Conservative 23h ago edited 23h ago
Being upset about this means you’re not being one of the admins “boys” or “gals”
Such a fucking letdown
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u/NotRadTrad05 Catholic Conservative 23h ago
Whether you agree with their vote or not, it should be painfully obvious that this is going to be brought back up in the midterms.
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u/mahvel50 Constitutionalist 2A 22h ago
As it should. If you run on a platform of transparency and then do this, you’re no better. We need a wipe Of the current politicians that uphold this corrupt system.
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u/TheGame81677 Reagan Conservative 23h ago
This is bullshit! We deserve to know the truth. What’s wrong with these people?
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u/Manburpigg Conservative 23h ago edited 22h ago
I don’t care if f*cking mother Theresa is on that client list, release it and hold every single one of them responsible. Tired of this shit.
EDIT: to all the leftists flooding my inbox asking me “what if your orange idol is on the list!?”
Then F*CK him too! He’s not on the list, but if he is, then he can burn in hell with the rest of whoever is on the list.
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u/Tyler_Zoro Burkian conservative 13h ago
He’s not on the list
No matter how you feel about Trump, don't make assumptions. At this point either he's on the list or he's running interference for those who are. Either way, this is not good.
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u/moa711 Conservative Woman 23h ago
This list must have every politician, wealthy individual, and anyone else with power, on it. Otherwise it makes no sense for them to be so hesitant to release this.
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u/EmbraceTheFault Conservative 22h ago edited 21h ago
It makes a lot of sense if Epstein was being used as an asset by one of the three letter agencies. Can you imagine the outrage, not only here, but around the world if it came to light that a US intelligence agency was using him to get dirt/weight on politicians, world leaders, any mover and shaker really. Thats an embarrassment I don't know how we'd recover from. Who the fuck would ever trust the US again knowing that its intelligence apparatus was willing to stoop to such an abhorrent, vile practice?
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u/provincialcompare Moderate Conservative 21h ago
My guess is that he was being used by some joint CIA/Mossad operation to blackmail high profile individuals, but it doesn’t really matter at this point… we’re never finding out
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u/JackandFred Conservative 21h ago
That’s what I think is the case too. Everybody has already talked about various intel connections between Epstein and Maxwell, the only thing that would be bad enough to not release files is us involvement.
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u/IndigoSoullllll Christian Conservative 22h ago
This is the type of legislation decision making that will make me turn my back on Trump.
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u/snusboi Christian Nationalist 23h ago
Not a good look for republicans that I will say.
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u/Damichia480 23h ago
Not a good look for the government in general
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u/JefferyGiraffe Conservative 22h ago
Wasn’t it only the republican senators who voted against?
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u/LysanderSpoonersCat fiscal conservative 23h ago
Yes, but especially for republicans though if we’re being honest. Since this was “our thing” to uncover, and the nays were nearly identical from the R’s as they were the D’s when the R’s were the ones who claimed they supposedly cared about exposing it in the first place.
Fundraising gift for democrats as usual.
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u/Hulluck22 Small Government 23h ago
they are all the same. this craps going to be like ufo’s JFK, Jimmy Hoffa, ect. All sorts of conspiracy theories and documentaries for decades. We may find out the truth once everyone reading this is in their 90’s.
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u/NotaClipaMagazine 2A Extremist 22h ago
They've had what, 8 years? How much time do you really need to edit and redact the hell out of it? We will never get to see it if it even exists anymore.
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u/Quirky-Marsupial-420 Conservative 18h ago
As constituents, we can't ever let this go.
The list must be made public. Those who had any part in hurting children must be held accountable.
My state has 2 democrat senators, but I can promise you if I lived in a state with republican senators that voted against releasing the list they'd never get my vote again.
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u/Vacher-Cream Constitutionalist 23h ago
Did anyone actually believe it would have turned out any differently? This sub can never use the “ its (D)ifferent argument ever again.
They are all the same shit. Whether you wipe your ass with your left hand or right hand its still touching an asshole.
Until the day that WE THE PEOPLE actually means anything again, we are nothing but peasants to the nobles once again. GW and his crew are rolling over in their graves.
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u/Elegant_Meaning4570 Conservative 21h ago
They are all the same shit. Whether you wipe your ass with your left hand or right hand its still touching an asshole.
I hate how good that line is, wow...well played
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u/IAmAnEediot Fiscal Conservative 21h ago
They are all the same shit. Whether you wipe your ass with your left hand or right hand its still touching an asshole.
Pal... I use a bidet so.
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u/Vacher-Cream Constitutionalist 21h ago
What NGO gave you money for a bidet??!!?
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u/Easterncoaster Conservative Libertarian 23h ago
How do you expect to get a majority of people to say yes to something that hurts them when like 90% of them are on that list?
It’s like asking criminals to vote on whether they should go to jail
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u/kaijumediajames Catholic Conservative 23h ago
The US Government has undoubtedly covered up and withheld the truth to a lot of bad stuff over the years, but this is the first time in awhile that I get the notion they’re doing it out of fear. They’ve either got a really good reason to do this or a really bad one.
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u/mahvel50 Constitutionalist 2A 21h ago
There is no good reason. It's to protect the upper echelon from the inevitable calling for heads of terrible people. There is no accountability for those at the top.
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u/-Istvan-5- MAGA Conservative 23h ago
"I'ma drain the swamp!!"
6 months later
"Damn.. swamp got hands"
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u/cathbadh Grumpy Conservative 22h ago
More like "I am the swamp now."
Covering this up, hiding this information, and then attacking anyone who complains is swamp behavior, and our party, including our president, is doing it. I'll only give the Dems partial credit here. I don't think they'd push for it to be released at all if Trump and his allies weren't fighting against it. Otherwise, they would have done it under Biden. So what they're doing right now is just for show.
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u/ConfusionFlat691 Fiscal Conservative 22h ago
And let me know when either party implements meaningful lobbyist reform. MFers write the legislation and decide what stays and what goes. They ARE the swamp and nobody talks about em.
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u/-Istvan-5- MAGA Conservative 22h ago
True. Although I like a lot of what Trump's done, at the end of the day it's nailed one thing for sure that our government will never change. The fix is in, the corruption is deep seated. Its rotten from the core and you can't get it out.
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u/Simmumah Reagan Conservative 23h ago
All to protect Trump simply because he's the President. Not a good look, not at all. Every fucker on that list needs to rot in a cell.
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u/retnemmoc Conservative 23h ago edited 15h ago
Seems like a lot of right wing influencers like Charlie Kirk have gotten a "special call" from the whitehouse and are now no longer talking about the Epstein files.
It feels like the Trump Administration doesn't have full control over all of the evidence. Pam Bondi releases binders full of already released information. I'm guessing it just so happens that whatever they have is either incomplete, inconclusive, or has a surprising amount of detail when it comes to Trump, but magically missing when it comes to everyone else Epstein had contact with.
It would be hilarious if every page was redacted except for the word Trump. Would you release that? You'd either have to get ready for everyone to question your every interaction with Epstein or admit you have ZERO control over your own intelligence apparatus.
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u/Shiny_Mew76 Conservative 21h ago
What exactly have they said in terms of their reason as to why they shouldn’t be released? It seems like such an obvious thing to do and refusing to release them only makes it even more suspicious.
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u/FkDemocRats2024 Conservative 1d ago
Why is the release of the Epstein files something that Congress has the authority to allow or deny? Isn't that all under the Executive branch / DOJ?
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u/ikzz1 Low Taxes 19h ago
The Congress has the authority to pass laws, which the DOJ has to follow. That's how the government works. Are you an American?
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u/sanesociopath Conservative Enough 23h ago
This would force the DOJ's hand to release it.
The wording was a bit lax and made for easy excuses to vote no though
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u/Leemo19 Metalcore Conservative 19h ago
Looks like mid terms might swing back to the left. Good job Conservative/Rebs you had one job to vote to release the doc. Now the left will most likely use this vote against you. This really makes the right are afraid of something definitely not a good look for them.
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u/Elegant_Meaning4570 Conservative 20h ago
And this is why you can't trust any politician. They'll gleefully make promises, denounce the other side, claim morality, anything to get your vote. And then the moment they know they're safe, they'll turn around and do the opposite because it makes them more money or is more convenient.
I'd hoped that Trump was a big enough (money, personality, power, etc) to resist that pull, but seems instead of draining the swamp he and the Republicans are just as content as all the past administrations and let it be. I hate that I'm still surprised, but that's on me I guess for being hopeful for once
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u/Tasty_Explanation_20 Conservative 20h ago
Not really surprising. I’m sure many of them are on that list, as are many of their financial donors no doubt. There is a reason this list hasn’t been released yet.
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u/Royal_IDunno Conservative 20h ago
Well that’s not a good look for congress. If I was in charge I’d release the Epstein files immediately.
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u/ikzz1 Low Taxes 19h ago
All but one Republican voted against releasing the Epstein files, so it's not a good look for Republicans only.
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u/Canard-Rouge Conservative 21h ago
Why are there so many vanishing comments on this thread?
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u/Dionysus24779 Small Government 12h ago
At this point they are all accomplices at best.
Absolutely disgusting.
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u/Cylerhusk Conservative 7h ago
Republicans... this is not a partisan issue. Good lord. This should have been a bipartisan Yes vote, regardless of who introduced the bill. What the fuck is wrong with them unless they're on the damn list.
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u/shadowgar Constitutional Conservative 7h ago
The uniparty is showing their true self now. I’m done voting for any of them. It’s all a sham. Everyone needs thrown out.
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u/Benjanon_Franklin Don't Tread On Me 21h ago
Politicians of both parties are shitbags. They are worse than professional wrestlers at this point. That vote was the biggest kayfabe bullshit ever. Orchestrated nonsense.
Both parties need to be ended at this point. Nobody in our government cares about the Constitution or the American people.
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u/MacSteele13 Conservative Libertarian 21h ago
This is how the Reps will loose big in the midterms...
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u/Frosty88d Catholic Conservative 20h ago
I just watched the movie Memory with Liam Neeson recently, amd it felt like a dicumemtary, since all about the FBI investigating a child sex trafficking ring with the help of one of the traffickers assassin's who turns on them. I wish that would happen to the people who are hiding the epstein list
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u/H3nchman_24 Conservative 22h ago
The Right wing and Left wing are part of the same bird.
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u/tuvda Conservative 5h ago
If anyone even for a second thinks the US is not at all corrupt this is all the proof you need that is it. Protecting the rich and powerful all the while supporting the abuse of pedofiles and the abuse of women and children. All the while claiming to be about family. What a total joke.
SHAME ON ALL OF THEM.
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u/ZR-71 Conservative 23h ago
why would they release the files? everyone with real money, power, and influence is on it. This isn't rocket surgery, people
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u/LyrMeThatBifrost Conservative 23h ago
Why is is packaged with crypto bills and defense spending?
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u/ikzz1 Low Taxes 19h ago
The Democrats can't start their own bill since they are not the house majority currently, so adding amendments to an existing bill (that Republicans started and supported) is their only way to bring this to the Congress.
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u/Magehunter_Skassi Paleoconservative 1d ago edited 22h ago
Any reason why Democrats didn't push for this when they controlled the House in 2022?
EDIT: To clarify for the DMs-- yes, Bondi and Trump misstepped by turning this case into a media circus. The DOJ should rectify this mistake by releasing what they can, but don't be surprised if it's not "satisfactory" in the sense of being more boring than one might hope for.
If the files contained damning evidence about Donald Trump, it raises the very obvious questions of:
-Why Trump teased the release of them and why he appointed Bondi/Patel/Bongino. If I was in such a file, I wouldn't be talking about it at all.
-Why they weren't released as a campaign killshot in 2024. It would have been a free victory for Kamala, even if it implicated some Democratic politicians. The biggest speculated name is Bill Clinton, and he's been on the Democratic Party's periphery for years. It wouldn't be a catastrophe.
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u/Stalinsovietunion 1d ago
because all of our politicians are on it no matter the party. It would be mutually assured destruction
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u/VIII_Terror 2A 23h ago
It would be mutually assured destruction
Bingo. There are likely some very powerful people on that list, it would benefit neither side release it so now they are moving to bury it forever.
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u/Rocket_Surgery83 Conservative 22h ago
Honestly, I think the Dems would have thrown their own under the bus if they felt it was a concrete way of preventing Trump from getting a second term.
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u/dcee101 Conservative 21h ago
To assume that all politicians are involved in child sex trafficking is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
At a certain point, there has to be a logical conclusion to this. There are no satanic child abuse sex cults running around in Congress. It's asinine and absurd. Do you also think that they'd never be busted for other crimes outside of using Epstein Island? Do you think that child sex predators do it once or twice and then never do it again? Or is it built into their DNA?
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u/free-minded Catholic Conservative 23h ago
The same reason republicans are quashing it now. Because they’re involved. Or people who donate to them are involved. Or they’re being threatened by people who are involved.
I’m willing to bet all three. Who would have thought, the only true bipartisan stance is a desire to protect people who hurt children.
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u/CodeWizardCS America 1st Conservative 23h ago
Because it didn't matter back then because talking about it didn't make Trump look bad or force him into a suboptimal decision.
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u/EngineSlug420 Conservative 22h ago
This is as you said "Political Theater". This sub is eating it up though, so it's working. These dipshits had four years to do this, not they act like they care.
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u/Arkham2015 Common Sense 21h ago
It's not as if Trump and Bondi and Patel are helping out here on this.
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u/andromeda880 Conservative 16h ago
Yup. All the articles and comments here - everyone is falling for the theatrics. I feel like something more is going on behind the scenes.
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u/ObadiahtheSlim Lockean 23h ago
This was all theater. It was a vote against adding it to completely unrelated legislation. It exists solely for low information people who read headlines and nothing else.
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u/Dezno_ssbm Conservative 23h ago edited 16h ago
Please don't get tricked by this. The reason this is posted as a Twitter post is because it doesn't give any other info. The democrats added an amendment to a bill Republicans were already going to deny. This is merely democratic theater the moment you read into it a bit.
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u/LyrMeThatBifrost Conservative 22h ago
Yep, the conservatives were already opposing because they wanted the crypto bills merged into one legislative package. The dems knew this and scored easy political points by tacking on the Epstein stuff.
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u/Skylantech Conservative 4h ago
Thanks, I genuinely lost a good bit of faith in the party until you pointed this out.
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u/Trondkjo Conservative 17h ago
Too bad this isn't the top comment. Doesn't stop "fellow conservatives" from pearl clutching.
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u/Polerize2 Conservative 22h ago
Left or right nobody wants to release it. When the left wins the mid terms and the next presidency because of this it STILL wont be released despite Trump supposedly being on it. Because guess who else is on it. Yup him and her and him and on and on it goes.
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u/Jurclassic5 Conservative 22h ago
Politics is a clown show. Where's our Javier Milei to fix the system.
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u/UpvoteMagnet99 Conservative 22h ago
Massey voted against this bill. So there must’ve been a pretty big catch on this thing.
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u/Shooter_McGavin27 Conservative 17h ago
This makes no sense. H Res 580 that was voted on today is in regards to DOD Appropriations, Anti-surveillance act, and the Genius Act.
Republicans voted aye - 196 to Democrats nay - 210. It failed as a result. This bill had nothing to do with Epstein.
This video is either from a prior years H res 580 bill or it’s been doctored.
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u/NiceChemical Cuban Conservative 15h ago
What a joke of a subreddit.
House Republicans on Monday night voted against attaching a Democratic amendment to landmark cryptocurrency legislation that would force the Justice Department to release the Jeffrey Epstein files.
Why attach this to the GENIUS Act, which would create the first regulatory framework for stablecoins, or the defense funding bill? What does that have to do with crypto? Why not introduce by itself.
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u/AilsaN Small Government 17h ago
There was more to the bill that deserved to be blocked:
"There was a piece of legislation that would’ve been voted on today that would have allowed a backdoor to create a central back digital currency. I support crypto but I do not support CBDC’s. I was part of a group that was able to block it. Again, I am pro-crypto but cannot allow for any backdoor or loose language that would allow for a CBDC."
-Rep. Anna Paulina Luna on X
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1945224957065056618
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u/ytilonhdbfgvds Constitutional Conservative 23h ago
Link to the bill itself? It probably had some horseshit attached, making it split along party lines
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u/Haust Conservative 19h ago
https://rules.house.gov/bill/119/hr-3633
From what I can tell, they wanted to attach an amendment to this (Amendment #50 by Khanna, #149 and #150 vote). It was voted down 7-5 and 8-4. Effectively, if I'm reading it right, the attached is grossly unrelated to the bill itself, which involves digital currency.
That's if I'm reading it right. I'm concerned I'm missing something because I'm not sure what the X video has to do with it.
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u/bozoconnors Fiscal Conservative 22h ago
1000% - without even looking. Also what we won't hear about (probably), an alternate GOP sponsored bill that will have nothing attached, & won't make it out of committee.
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u/rick6668 Constitutional Conservative 21h ago
4.3K Upvotes to a thread in this forum. LOL. Yeah OK.
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u/Quirky-Marsupial-420 Conservative 21h ago
I’m absolutely not carrying water from Trump or Epstein but when I saw this posted on the politics sub it was some bill about cryptocurrency.
What is the bill they declined so we can read it
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u/Comfortable-Tap-9991 MAGA 16h ago
Once again, the sub is taken over by the usual suspects. This was a procedural vote that would have turned over the house to the Democrat party. They attached the Epstein-files release as a poison pill so they can then make these exact posts when it fails on social media and you are all falling for it.
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u/DJSpawn1 Conservative Libertarian 20h ago
To all the "nay sayers", it is a good look for republicans......did you see all the pork in the bill that had nothing to do with the Epstein files????
Or did none of you read it?
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u/Black_XistenZ post-MAGA conservative 18h ago
In this day and age, 90% of people never read beyond the headline...
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u/scudsboy36 Conservative 21h ago edited 16h ago
So fucking disappointed. Maybe Elon is right about a third party
Edit: Ive read that this was an amendment attached to a bill that Democrats knew would not pass, so they could all vote yes, knowing the main legislation of the bill would not pass. Makes sense knowing the democrats are cowards.
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u/Vag-etarian Libertarian Conservative 23h ago
There’s just as many democrats on that list as there are republicans. The vote was a show. They knew the republicans wouldn’t let it move forward. It’s all manufactured outrage.
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u/multiple4 Moderate Conservative 19h ago
Lmfaoooo
And then I'm supposed to feel bad that these disgusting corrupt human beings felt slightly uncomfortable on January 6th?
If they actually respected or feared the people they're supposed to represent, they might not so blatantly do this shit
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u/cchris_39 Independent Conservative 15h ago
Not that anybody takes civics or government anymore, but releasing the files is not something the legislative branch has authority over to begin with.
More gratuitous grandstanding. Go you Dems - you forced a meaningless vote on something to make the other side look bad. Yawn.
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u/kw-42 Conservative 21h ago
Can we throw out all of the existing politicians and start over? Preferably with people who don’t diddle kids